Les meilleurs pneus pour la Alfa Romeo 156 2.0 TS Veloce

Ça a été correct, pas fantastique sous la pluie mais bien sur le sec. À peu près à moitié usés et ils ont 6 ans, mais les deux sont devenus un avis sur le contrôle technique. Les flancs sont pourris et fissurés. Je les remplace par des Khumo.

Tire est plus axé sur l'économie que sur la performance, mais offre toujours une bonne maniabilité. J'ai été surpris de voir à quel point il résiste aux conditions humides que je conduis sur des coilovers et après avoir remplacé les Pirelli P7, j'ai été très surpris de leur confort.

Je suis allé avec le T001Evos car à l'époque ils étaient un bon prix. Le seul pneu de marque qui était moins cher était l'Avon ZV7. (Hankook, Pirelli et des tas de pneus supposés milieu de gamme étaient plus.)

Ces Bridgestones ont duré 20 km jusqu'à présent, mais seulement 5 km à l'avant. Comparativement, j'ai trouvé un meilleur port de pneus car il me semble que je les porte rapidement pendant les mois d'hiver. Cela doit être le signe que je peux me rapprocher de leurs limites. Ils sont silencieux, confortables et stables et ont largement bien performé. Je n'ai pas opté pour les T005 car les T001 Evos sont plus silencieux. Ils roulent bien et pourraient donc être un bon choix pour ceux qui apprécient beaucoup le confort.

L'adhérence dans les virages est correcte et le retour d'information est correct quand on se souvient qu'il s'agit de pneus de tourisme. Je trouve qu'ils manquent de mordant dans les virages mais étrangement cela s'améliore subjectivement avec la vitesse.

Ce que j'ai trouvé maintenant, ils sont juste en dessous de 4 mm de profondeur de bande de roulement à l'avant, c'est qu'ils déclenchent l'ABS lorsqu'ils vérifient même légèrement le freinage sur l'asphalte lisse lorsqu'il y a un film d'eau. Je n'avais pas remarqué de gros problèmes d'aquaplaning en ligne droite ou en virage, mais ils sont particulièrement médiocres lors du freinage. Ce que je veux dire, c'est qu'au cours de leur durée de vie, ces pneus classés A pour le freinage sur sol mouillé ne fonctionnent tout simplement pas comme leur note le suggère. C'est quelque chose que j'ai noté depuis longtemps en ce qui concerne la façon dont le nouvel étiquetage européen des pneus peut être très trompeur. Pour mettre cela dans un certain contexte, j'ai noté une autre voiture familiale qui a des pneus 195 / 65R15 Yokohama C-Drive 2 qui sont notés C sont certainement supérieurs à cet égard (ils ont également 3,5 mm de profondeur de bande de roulement).

À l'heure actuelle, j'ai noté le point faible du Bridgestone et je conduis en conséquence, mais cela signifie que je ne prendrai pas le risque de les réduire simplement parce que dans certaines conditions, ils rendront les freins inefficaces.

C'est dommage parce que j'aime Bridgestones pour ma moto, mais je reconnais que Bridgestone était réputé pour ses problèmes de performances sur sol mouillé qui ont été résolus avec les T005.

Une façon de contourner cela pourrait être de déplacer à nouveau les pneus vers l'arrière, mais cela pourrait avoir des implications en matière de sécurité (les pneus usés sont subjectivement meilleurs sur le sec, les nouveaux pneus subjectivement mieux sur le mouillé - c'est pourquoi je monte de nouvelles paires à l'arrière).

En bref, ils sont bons mais présentent un défaut flagrant qui n'est pas typique des performances arrondies des pneus d'un fabricant Premium. Ils peuvent encore être un bon achat à condition que les gens soient conscients et agissent en conséquence ET que le prix d'achat se situe vers le bas de l'échelle moyenne. Tout compte fait, je pense qu'ils sont encore bien meilleurs que la plupart des pneus à bas prix qui ont généralement des problèmes de performances majeurs lorsqu'ils sont usés.

Ce sont des pneus décents qui s'usent bien. La qualité de roulement est également un point positif, tout comme le faible bruit, mais ils sont moins bons sur des surfaces plus rugueuses. J'ai également trouvé que l'adhérence sur sol mouillé et la tenue de route mouillée étaient décentes si je n'étais pas inspirant.

Les AV7 ont aussi des points négatifs. Les angles de patinage des pneus semblent élevés, ce qui se manifeste par un pneu généralement non réactif et imprécis, quoique moins. De même, la tenue de route sèche n'est pas géniale (mais pas terrible non plus) et il n'est pas difficile de faire grincer les ZV7 avec une utilisation même un peu enthousiaste.

Problèmes mis à part; ce sont des performances par £ bargain. Ils sont un pneu assez indulgents et donc sûrs qui fournissent une rétroaction assez décent. Ils font ce qui est prévu. C'est; Le ZV7 est un pneu de tourisme impressionnant qui n'a aucune prétention sportive. Il est absolument sûr, porte bien et est calme et lisse et effectue subjectivement mieux sur le mouillé. Tout cela pour un tenner plus qu'une alternative bon marché et méchant signifie que le ZV7 est un bon pneu que je soupçonne que les gens aimeront plus que les résultats des tests professionnels suggèrent.

This is an end of life review in addition to previous. In short these Pirellis are grippy, smooth, controllable and wear very well. The recent snow is what prompted me to change (this time for Bridgestone Turanza T001 Evo) after 17000 miles on the front only with 2.5mm of tread remaining. It would have been better if I'd realised an auto centre had set the geometry correctly (for sports suspension).

I like the green credentials- light weight, less materials in construction yet a strong carcass means low unsprung weight so good ride quality yet they still grip. Braking, aquaplaning resistance and cornering are all commendable aspects for these hard wearing Cinturatos which come with 9mm of tread when new. Indeed, due to the unusually deep tread, I wish I'd fitted them to the less stressed rear wheels when new as that would pay huge dividends in tyre life.

I'm trying marginally quieter tyres this time which are still very lightweight but not so light that the carcass deforms and shoulder wear results (Goodyear Efficient Grip Performance). Look for tyre weights on Amazon under product details as a guide. However, I have found I greatly like these Pirellis and I would heartily recommend them as a vice free touring tyre. They are a refreshing change to the rather short lived, harsh and noisy tyres Continental have offered for far too long now. The Pirellis also work very well for the enthusiastic driver and stand up to punishment well. The only negative aspect is slightly blunted steering response but otherwise they really are very good indeed and I say if you are considering them just give them a try. There is nothing to lose.

I decided to try these as I previously had a complete set of Ventus Prime 2 K115 and the promise of being a little more sporting was appealing. Both the 2s and 3s are good tyres IMO when it is remembered they are touring tyres and not track biased in any way.

The first thing anyone will notice is noise and comfort. Surprisingly, the 3s are actually a set backwards. The 2s are noticeably quieter and round off road imperfections more effectively. In this department, both are superior to the heavy Conti Premium Contact 2s. The Kook 2s are almost as good as the lightweight Pirelli P7 Cinturatos with regard to comfort which on my other 156.

Next is response and feedback. The Ventus Prime 3s are a small improvement over the 2s in this respect. The 2s are obviously aimed more for comfort. The 3s are similar to the Pirellis but not as good as the Contis which need less lock to get round bends. The 2s are adequate but not inspiring.

Handling. I thought I'd have more to say given the crazy angles I've put the 156s round bends but they appear to be safe and manageable. Perhaps that is in itself great praise. Contrast that with the Contis which become messy, inaccurate and totally lack adjustability and either of the Kooks really do shape up to look controllable in extremis. They are perhaps not as good as the Pirellis though. The only criticism I have for the 3s is that cold weather does drop off a little (as it does with all summer tyres). In this area, for once, the Contis make sense. However, the good handling means it is easily manageable and the reduction is in no way concerning.

Wear. I'd say the 3s have it. I can't be sure but now the 3s have less than 3mm and over 20k miles (a first for me) I think the 3s are a particularly durable tyre. My impressions of the 2s wear I though wear was on the high side but I didn't mind. I did mind having to rub loads of tyre black into the tiny sidewall ribs of the 2s though... Another thing about these tyres, notably the 3s is how well they preserve the grip and handling characteristics when they are worn. Budget tyres cannot do this and become terrible (a set of Vredestein Sportrac 3s became decidedly psychotic- yet were winning tyre tests). They may not be up to Michelin Pilot levels in this respect but they do perform convincingly even when worn so can go right to the 1.6mm.

In short, either variant is recommended. The 2s are quieter and more comfortably and the 3s feel a little more sporting even though there is not much difference in outright grip.

I was able to buy these without going to a specialist supplier. My impressions of these suggest that selling them mainstream may have been a mistake. Irrespective, I wanted to try them for myself so I ended up with a complete set. A deer wrote my car off before they were totally done though.

They have a nice crisp steering response and good feedback. Cornering grip was very good but less so in the wet. I found them to generally behave very well with no upsets. Breakaway and recovery was always easily managed and for that they can be recommended.

They have shortcomings though. When new, the tread depth was only just above 6mm (sporting tyre). Aquaplaning resistance was very poor though. Indeed, I used them in snow once. It gave new meaning to 'absolutely no grip'. They are very heavy so transmit every bump into the cabin and even tiny road imperfections could clearly be detected. Wear was not good and I'd sum them up as not good for a daily driver. For a toy they're not bad but I believe there are better options available which don't have anything like the RE002's drawbacks.

Not a bad tyre but it should have been marketed more accurately and having mainstream autocentres fitting them as a mainstream performance tyre certainly had it's drawbacks and I imagine some damage was done to the Bridgestone brand name for that reason.

. Grip, handling, ride and noise are all very good. Although I've only had them on for just over 2 months, I've covered 5000 miles. So far, life seems good. Even allowing for wear, they are much better than the Continental Premium Contact 2 tyres they replaced. The Contis never had the grip, even when almost new that the Pirellis have. The Pirellis ride way smoother and are very noticeably quieter. They are predictable when pushed which the Contis never were. These Pirellis have always been light which is why they reduce unsprung weight which helps ride quality immensely.

I cannot comment on low temperature performance as yet but they are not as true tracking as the Continental tyres and even cruising, the Pirellis need a little more steering lock in bends. The plus side of that is that when the limit is approached, there is still plenty of scope for line and attitude adjustment. In any case, even if and when performance does tail off when these Pirellis are worn, it should still hopefully be quite acceptable.

I really like these tyres as they ride so smoothly and quietly yet they still manage to perform very well indeed. I find them quieter than the nose rating of 71dB suggests but that will vary car to car. Aquaplaning resistance has been exceptional but they are still new so again, I cannot comment what they are like when worn. How much performance tails off varies greatly over a tyre's life and I hope these Pirellis are well enough developed to avoid the shocking tail off which is common to so many budget tyres.

I've found these to be a well balanced touring tyre which I can recommend. Tyre life is good and although they have been on the front and rear, there is still over 3mm on them after 20000 miles of sometimes very spirited progress.

For a touring tyre, grip is about as good as can be reasonably expected which is less than that of a sports focused tyre for obvious reasons. However, last winter I found the cold weather performance to suffer more than the Continental Premium Contact 2 tyres at the other end. The Hankooks are not terrible in this respect but not as good as some. However, they remained stable, predictable and controllable so there was never cause for alarm.

Although they tend to have fairly large slip angles (not as true tracking as some tyres), grip and tyre life seems notably good. In short, not quite up to Pirelli P7 Cinturatos but they are cheaper and only slightly not as good.
Definitely good value for money and a good performing tyre which is only slightly let down by its aquaplaning resistance. Good in all other respects.

In short, I've found better options out there. Although these are now an old tyre, I still see them being offered and even fitted to some 16 plate cars as OE fitment. I'm not sure why as I've found these to be quite noisy and impart a certain sharpness to the ride which both Hankoik Ventus Prime 3 K125 and more notably Pirelli P7 Cinturato tyres seem to round off a lot better.

For a touring tyre, the Contis are impressively reactive and require less steering lock than many others. However, the negative side is that at the limit they lose grip suddenly and there is little scope for adjustment to the line. Used as such, they make the handling untidy at best and certainly less stable than others. I think these tyres demonstrate German engineering ethos in that they are generally well rounded up to about 8 tenths but after that the shortcomings become apparent.

Tyre life seems good. They were on the car for 20000 miles in both rear and front positions. Resistance to aquaplaning is quite good as is damp and cold weather cornering. As such, these older mid-performing tyres may still make sense if they are discounted sufficiently.